If you were gonna take a 'Makeup for Dancers' Workshop......

topic posted Tue, August 11, 2009 - 9:21 PM by  offlineLeana
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Ok, wanted to get some honest opninions from fellow dancers out there.....
If you were going to take a 'Makeup for Dancers' specific workshop, what would you want to learn?? This would not be an everyday makeup workshop, so keep that in mind.

If you're wondering why I'm asking......well, it's because I'm teaching one at next years' 'Cues and Tattoos' festival, and have a bazillion ideas, but wanted to hear others thoughts on what they'd want to know.

Thanks alot ladies.....
xoxo
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Leana
Seattle
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  • What a swell idea! Since it would be geared for dancers, I'm thinking about what kind of make-up to wear in various lighting (i.e. restaurant vs. stage, dark vs. well-lit, photography sessions vs. TV/cable taping). Maybe what colors compliment certain skin tones/colors (but maybe that's just individual experimentation).
  • I took one earlier this year - and I would definitely want:
    A PROPER list of supplies to bring, not just "bring makeup" if you want people to practice applying it
    Handouts with supplier names etc if you aren't planning to leave the slides up long enough to make notes
    A bunch of different suggestions on where to draw harquus
    Face charts showing the shading
    Suggestions on colours to use (with different lighting arrays/ for different skin colours etc)
  • Things I cover in my Makeup & Hair for Dancers workshops ( www.belliphat.com/workshops.html ):

    * Makeup basics (the color wheel, using & cleaning brushes, how to shape your eyebrows, the order that everything should be applied, etc)
    * Use of concealer, primer & shading/contouring (things most people don't do or do incorrectly)
    * The differences between street makeup products vs. stage makeup products (esp. Creme makeup)
    * False eyelashes -- people are VERY intimidated/frustrated by these & often give up or wear the wrong kind and are therefore bothered by them while they're on
    * Things to do when on stage vs. still photography vs. video (ie, why mica can be bad for the camera lens, the AMOUNT of makeup needed, etc)
    * Tips & tricks -- like not completely rimming your eyes with liner, applying a white to your tearducts, creating a pout on your lips, etc

    I also cover hair, in addition to makeup, because I think it's equally as important & equally as intimidating for most people -- didn't know if you wanted suggestions on that or not, though...
    • This won't be including hair.....won't be enough time.....
      • Just to throw in my 2 cents – btw, I'm still technically in the "remedial" make-up class

        Choosing the proper colors, tones for YOUR face. (foundations, powders, cheeks, contours, highlights, eyes)

        I want an eye chart! A diagram of WHERE the different colors go for different looks. Forget all this "in the crease"stuff – if you don't have a well-defined crease, you still don't know where to put it. Also including how the same colors look different based on where/how you use them.

        Contouring/highlighting – definitely. I was at a makeup workshop earlier this year which did NOT cover this and I left completely disappointed and still guessing about how to do it.

        A list of tools, with pictures of the different brushes, sponges, etc., in different sizes.

        This may be impossible, but – a way to talk to people who are not daily makeup users that doesn't make them feel like they're already at a disadvantage because they're not daily users. Suggestions for what do if you have certain issues, which is why you're not a daily user. (For example, the workshop I was at, several of us brought up problems with lipstick because we don't use it often. Constant lip-rubbers, or dry chappy lips, etc. There needs to be an answer for that other than, "I don't know, I wear it all the time.")

        And for other remedial students out there – a discussion of different "tribal looks." Like bindis. Or the people who use "dots" in their makeup. Do the dots mean something, or do they just look kinda neat? I don't want to use them if I don't understand them. When to use "Egyptian" eyes, when not to, etc.

        If there's time – I SOOOOOO want to attend a "no holds barred, let the freak out" makeup workshop. Makeup for the people who aren't trying to look like a woman. How to open the proverbial box and seriously go wild. I have great ideas in my mind, but when I sit down to try to do it, I come out all conservative.
  • you know what would be cool is a basic hand out w/ a fairly plane lined face, just pencil drawn (like the charts you get at the department stores when they want you to make a note of what they used where so you can come back and buy it later if you aren't that day)

    and be able to identify face types, shapes and what shading/lineing techniques work on them and WHY (they why often helps explain the actual doing i.e. lining small eyes all the way aorund w/ black eyeliner is actually closing the eye in making it appear SMALLER than it was before- lining a large eye they same will have a different effect- or don't try to cover stuff up with DARKER stuff... use a LIGHTER material, reflects more light and makes it appear to be a more full surface for say bags under the eyes etc)

    those things help me, b/c you aren't just putting on make up, you are often trying to create a picture out of something that is either NOT there or is very small. So you use colours in appropriate places and lines to create the image you want people to see, not just enhancing something already there.

    that and generic brands of must haves... and good brushes to use. i am usually going through brushes trying to find the right one constantly.

    oh yeah... and THROW your mascra AWAY!!!! most women don't know when their make up 'expires' or how long they should continue to use it or not (yeah I'm guilty too... I have mascra that sits in my truck for emergencies, it's probably a year old... shoudl be totally tossed... its so not healthy)

    love the idea of a make up work shop! =D
  • These are all great ideas. Most of which I'm planning on doing. It will be 2 hours so I don't want to overwhelm anyone so I was thinking handouts at the beginning would be a great idea. I do makeup lessons for individuals at the spa I work at but it's generally not for stage makeup. I love the creativity that we can do on our faces for dancing and am so looking forward to sharing my ideas with others as well as basics. I want to ignite creativity as well. Like showing looks that can be easily changed by using different colors and/or adjusting the looks depending on the persons eye shape, face shape etc.

    Thanks for all the feedback!
  • The thing I most hear about is how to do eyes of different shapes. I got lucky and have "perfect make up eyes"...well so people tell me. I don't have many issues figuring out stuff for myself but, doing make up for others for shows...I've ran into snags trying to figure out how to apply for *down turned eyes (well ya can't follow the "road work" or they end up looking like basset hounds with droopy eyes),
    *smaller eyes (how the hell are you supposed to fit so much make up in such a small space),
    *larger eyes (no one likes to look like a clown...well most people anyway).

    Through trial and error, lots of youtube tutorials, and a lot of make up remover, I eventually found the way...but it would have been a lot easier if I had taken a make-up workshop that taught all of that stuff. :) Contouring is a big one...thank god for carriefairfield.com...those queens can contour a jelly bean looking bowling ball and it would end up looking wonderful...but me, I'm still a work in progress.

    I think all of that was probably already mentioned in others posts...but there ya go. :P
    • I am definitely going to be emphasizing the eyes in this workshop! Not just ideas in general but how to makeup a variety of eye shapes! Seems based on this post, that is the biggest issue! I want to show looks that can be adjusted for a variety of eye shapes so everyone walks away inspired!
      • Leana- your right on point....

        as I said you are trying to re-create a look by defining and redrawing like a picture to show what you want, not what is... and that comes to lines and angles and emphasizing how the eye is shaped to its advantage or disadvantage. I think to many people look at it is 'just make up' instead of my face is a canvas, I have this and this and this to work with.... but I want my end result to be X. what can I do to make it go from this to this.

        =) you are so going to have a blast! =)
        • Jaw on floor....wow....it's a LOT more complicated than I thought! And this doesn't even include hair?!
          • there's alot to know and teach which is why I posted this. if I cover too many things in a 2 hour period, people will come away frustrated and uninspired.....which is the opposite of my intention!
            • Aw...I wanna come!
              Pity I'm so far away - especially since this is one kind of dance related workshop I can take while recovering from my long term hip injury... :(
              We really don't have stage makeup workshops here, and I don't think people take it seriously enough at all.

              Tsunami safe stage makeup, eye shapes, faceshapes in general and location/lighting specific tutoring would all appeal to me, but from the little I know about teaching, I'd say that even one of thos subjects could do with more than two hours... :P

              I AM looking forwards to hear how it went, though - and maybe watching pictures of some of the participant's results too. :)
  • liners. I find that my every day eye liner doesn't give a dramatic enough effect with the rest of my performance make-up so I end up fiddling for ages making this bit thicker and that bit thicker and adding flicks here and there until I poke myself in the eye.

    Also I think I'd quite like to learn balance. My eyes are the only nice part of my face so I've always made them a focal point with jewel toned shimmers and big lashes but as a result of focussing on them I'm totally clueless about lipstick (as in matching colours to the rest of the scheme or skin tone, lip liner (last time I tried that I looked like a drag queen) etc). Frequently I look back at pictures of myself dancing and my pace is just a pale nothingness with huge eyes lol. I've only recently ventured into the realms of blusher to try and balance it out a bit.
    • stage performance + drag queen = awesome make up for the audiance. =) you are not far from what you want, you should look goofy up close!

      And don't say your eyes are only the nice part- Bush league! you is lovely!!!!
      • awww thanks! *blushes* I guess we're all most picky about our own faces. My self-image is improving since I lost weight lol. I'll get there, but currently my eyes are the only bit I actually like!!!!

        Anyway, the drag queen bit I get for eyes but when I tried the lip liner it's the colours that I can't seem to match. I always choose too dark a shade and then I end up with this bizarre-looking ring around my lips lol.

        I hear there is a guy somewhere around here that is a make-up artist so I may try and persuade him to do a dance make-up workshop.
        • from what I understand- and there was a cool link to a princess farhana make up tips where she says this- is that the goofy ring around the lips usually doesn't look that odd from a distance- and I have found that w/ my lip stains where it wears off in the middle and leaves me a touch darker on the outside- really doesn't look that odd from 10 feet away. now anything closer than say 5 it does but past 10 you should be fine for stage make up!

          same goes for blush/bronzer (which should go below your chin/neck to your chest so you don't get the pretty make up face and blinding casper chest effect!)
          • Sorry if this has already been said, but I'm running out of time, and don't have time to read all of the comments!
            When I first got into trible I had no idea what to do for makeup hair or costuming. I think it would be really good at the start to maybe just explain the difference between Tribal and Triblal Fusion makeup, maybe even talk about what the the reasons behind certain things is (for instance the line from the lip down the chin, I don't know what it means or why it's there, but I have seen it on so many tribal dancers that I always do it even though I don't know why that reason is. I guess I just associate it with Tribal) and maybe talk about what are really good brands for dancers and performers ie; sweat proof, using a base that won't look odd, but that might help with people that get a very red face when they dance (thats something that i suffer from alot, and I am very uncomfterable with it).

            And I don't know if this would be going outside what you where wanting to do, but I had no clue at all with what to do with my hair or how. Maybe you could help with that as well.

            Hope that helps and again sorry if I have repeated something someone else has said! It's a really good idea. I can't tell you how many times I have been on the verge of asking teachers to spend a bit of time on hair and makeup in classes. (I never did because we were to busy dancing :D)
  • We all know eyes are shaped differently, showing how the makeup can be applied to suit the eye shape would be nice.

    And for those of us who like our big eyebrows, give us looks we can do too. Every makeup tutorial I see has tiny eyebrows so you can use the browbone as part of your palette of color. Show me something that doesn't involve this look.
  • I would love to learn what type of makeup looks best under stage lighting or restaurant lighting, what looks good from a distance (to an audience member), and what type of makeup is sweat-proof.

    Personally my problem area is eyes: I have no clue how to do eye makeup.

    I would also like to know which products are hypoallergenic.

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