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Hello Ladies (and Lads)....
I detest putting any stuff on my face, so the whole makeup aspect of ATS is an obstacle for me. However, I love how it looks and need to learn how to apply it in a way that lasts. When I trawl the posts to learn how to do better makeup, I usually read lots of product suggestions, but I just can't see myself buying all the products. Not that I'm cheap but I don't want to have to buy a fixative to put on top of some eye thing that's already on top of another thing that's over a powder, if you know what I mean.
What is the MINIMALIST way to get the most bang from your buck for eyes? So far I've gotten away with kohl, eyeliner and mascara. It is okay up close but not as striking from a distance. I never learned about the lids and all the shadowing and sculpting etc. and I actually hate spending too much time on it - so simpler and fewer layers is better.
My skin is old for my years from living in this crazy high desert climate and so my eyelids are wrinkly and crepey ... when I drag stuff across them the skin bunches up -- Gross, yuck, I know! Anyone have really simple beauty tricks for skin care to make the makeup look better when it's on, and not freak out so much after it comes off? Any ATS people out there who also like to be Natcherl?
thanks everyone!
Katie
I detest putting any stuff on my face, so the whole makeup aspect of ATS is an obstacle for me. However, I love how it looks and need to learn how to apply it in a way that lasts. When I trawl the posts to learn how to do better makeup, I usually read lots of product suggestions, but I just can't see myself buying all the products. Not that I'm cheap but I don't want to have to buy a fixative to put on top of some eye thing that's already on top of another thing that's over a powder, if you know what I mean.
What is the MINIMALIST way to get the most bang from your buck for eyes? So far I've gotten away with kohl, eyeliner and mascara. It is okay up close but not as striking from a distance. I never learned about the lids and all the shadowing and sculpting etc. and I actually hate spending too much time on it - so simpler and fewer layers is better.
My skin is old for my years from living in this crazy high desert climate and so my eyelids are wrinkly and crepey ... when I drag stuff across them the skin bunches up -- Gross, yuck, I know! Anyone have really simple beauty tricks for skin care to make the makeup look better when it's on, and not freak out so much after it comes off? Any ATS people out there who also like to be Natcherl?
thanks everyone!
Katie
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Re: Give me the Eye Basics Please!!
Mon, December 14, 2009 - 6:15 PMwww.youtube.com/panacea81
LOADS of cool makeup tips there.
when i put eyeshadow on, i pat it on instead of dragging it -- perhaps that would help you avoid the crepey skin?
find an eyeshadow base that you can apply with a finger or a cosmetic sponge and dab it on, then dab the eyeshadow on over that.
there's a tribe member here named bellatrix who teaches makeup workshops, she can probably give you great tips too
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Re: Give me the Eye Basics Please!!
Mon, December 14, 2009 - 6:17 PMp.s. i've seen lots of well-executed makeup that wasn't "kick you in the face" strong --
some simple harquus markings on the face, a little bit of eyeliner -- ATS can totally be minimalist with makeup, it can be a very earthy authentic look
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Re: Give me the Eye Basics Please!!
Mon, December 14, 2009 - 6:33 PMOH -- and, here's a site with some pretty good makeup for stupidly cheap
www.eyeslipsface.com
i use alot of their products, and most of them are only $1 so it would be a great way for you to get some makeup to experiment with without breaking the bank.
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Re: Give me the Eye Basics Please!!
Mon, December 14, 2009 - 7:54 PMThanks Elle- I appreciate every single suggestion & will try & let you know how it goes.
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Re: Give me the Eye Basics Please!!
Mon, December 14, 2009 - 8:56 PMThis is totally OT, but -- what an ADORABLE accent this girl has! :-P And, you know, the tutorials are great as well. I'm going through her archive of videos as we speak. There are tons! Thanks for the recommendation.
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Re: Give me the Eye Basics Please!!
Mon, December 14, 2009 - 7:47 PMAwww, thanks Elle. :)
My biggest tip for you would be to buy the Urban Decay Primer Potion in "Sin" -- it's their primer with a been of shimmer to it. Any primer will help with the wrinkly/crepey issue & buying this one with the sheen in it -- it can literally act like your eye makeup alone (no extra eyeshadow needed). It's about $17, but WELL worth it -- and then you can buy all the $1 eyeshadows you want for DAYS & they'll stay on like a champ.
If you want some extra depth beyond just the UDPP, you can put a shade that's slightly darker than your natural tone along the "crease" of your eyelid -- that will add depth without you having to do 10 steps of eye shadow. And the other thing that will help the crepey issue is to use BRUSHES to apply your eyeshadow, not those horrible little sponge sticks that come in the eyeshadow palette. And you don't have to spend a ton on brushes, either -- the ELF site Elle listed has some great brushes for $1, or you can get some WONDERFUL natural-bristle brushes from you local art store for only a few bucks a piece.
Beyond that, some eyeliner & mascara will help round you out without it feeling like a lot -- just remember that you will probably have to wear MORE than you normally would (even more than your "evening look") for it to show up on stage/photos/video. So if you're not getting the effect you want, it's often a case of not having enough on -- ie, make the eyeliner thicker, make the eyeshadow darker, etc.
Once you are comfortable with all of that, I'd recommend possibly coloring in your eyebrows and wearing some false eyelashes -- even the sparse ones -- this is to help balance the amount of makeup you're wearing & to make your face seem proportional. Myself, if I don't color in my eyebrows, once I put on all that makeup, it looks like I have none (which can make you look ill). It seems weird to me when I look in the mirror with colored-in eyebrows, but it really makes a positive difference on stage & in photos. -
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Re: Give me the Eye Basics Please!!
Mon, December 14, 2009 - 8:00 PMBellatrix, you are a gem. I really appreciate your suggestions. Like I said, I've been out in the sun and just living life for about 45 years and suddenly there's this whole new makeup thing to deal with. I agree on those dorky little sponge wand things - they are bad. My main problem is that though I look *nice* (if I do say so myself) without makeup, obviously on stage that doesn't fly, and most of the time I end up with the bad raccoon job 1/2 into it. I also have full but sunbleached eyebrows that disappear I need to draw in a line..... but often that looks SO fake.
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Re: Give me the Eye Basics Please!!
Mon, December 14, 2009 - 8:16 PMInstead of drawing in a line, I'd recommend filling in your eyebrows with a matte (ie, non-shiny) brown eyeshadow (or you can get a specific "brow powder" in the same section you can buy eyelash curlers -- but if you go with a brown eyeshadow, it can do double-duty for you & save you $$). Use an angled brush to apply it right on top of your regular lashes -- it will fill them in without looking harsh (which can age you) or without looking fake.
On the racoon thing -- it's probably (a) needing to use a primer to keep it in place & (b) using the right eyeliner. I'd recommend a creme/gel eyeliner (not a liquid or a pencil -- they both run). L'Oreal HIP makes one for about $11 -- also well worth the investment. You'll also apply it with an agled brush (and it doubles well for harquus applications as well). :D -
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Re: Give me the Eye Basics Please!!
Mon, December 14, 2009 - 8:17 PM** on top of your regular EYEBROWS, not lashes... LOL
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Re: Give me the Eye Basics Please!!
Mon, December 14, 2009 - 11:39 PM1. Pat on Moisturizer or eye cream on your lids first; let it absorb a minute. Then you can use a primer, or not. Primers are all the same, just silicone with or without some pearlescence. I like the pearly ones, they're better for middle-aged skin and make you look a little luminous; Sally Hansen's Natural Beauty has a good inexpensive one. I can't tell the difference between a cheap primer and an expensive one; same ingredients.
2. Maybelline makes their cheapo Expert Wear Eyeshadow Quads in two combos for a good smokey eye- Natural Smokes (brown shades) or Charcoal Smokes (black/grey shades) that tell you where each shadow goes. Lightest shade under the browbone, next darker shade all over lid, blending up into crease, second darkest shade in an arc in the crease, blend blend blend everything, darkest shade at outer corners of the eye. Takes me two minutes per eye.
OR get a light, pearly shadow for the browbone, whatever your blush is for the eyelid, and a brown shadow for the crease.
3. Kajal eyeliner pencil, preferably one with a foam blender on the other end. Or L'Oreal HIP gel liner, with a slanted flat brush. You can line your eyes either before you do the shadow and layer the shadow over it, or wait until the shadow is on and do your liner after.
4. Powder sets everything and helps it to last. I like loose translucent mineral powder. Use it lightly.
5. Mascara, facial markings and lips of choice. That's it. Wet & Wild H20 Proof is a good liner for markings that last.
