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topic posted Sun, August 23, 2009 - 2:38 AM by  Jodie
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Hi, does anyone know a good tattoo artist they can recommend who does waterlines? I have the most sensitive, hay fever irritated eyes ever and I'm getting so fed up of reapplying! I already use MAC technakohl eyeliner and even that doesn't last! :(
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Jodie
United Kingdom
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  • Mo
    Mo
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    Re: SPM

    Sun, August 23, 2009 - 11:18 AM
    i would strongly advise against applying makeup to the waterline (inner rim of the eye) on General Principle. it is a pain (!) to get on, a pain to get off, and it increases the chances of bacterial infections (transfer of icky-ickies from makeup->brush->eye->brush->makeup...). and ever since seeing "The Chronicles of Riddick", the image of Thandie Newton scorching her waterlines with an alien/futuristic soldering iron is pasted in my brain! as your eyes are so sensitive, i would DEFINITELY NOT recommend getting tattooed there... and unless inks have changed, the problem with 'black' is that it eventually fades to very-dark-green, and that is NOT an area with which to take risks.

    just MHO.
    • Re: SPM

      Sun, August 23, 2009 - 1:45 PM
      I feel like I have to jump in here in regards to black ink fading. I have a friend who is a very talented, professional tattoo artist (he's done one for me as well as several of our friends, and they're all still vibrant with sharp, crisp lines years later), and I can tell you truthfully that black doesn't always fade. However, many factors determine the quality of a tattoo as it ages.

      There are really three main things that are important for a good tattoo: the type of ink, the tattoo technique, and aftercare. Cheaper inks can fade quickly, many times within a matter of weeks. As for technique, if the tattoo artist (or technician in your case) is too heavy-handed it can cause much of the ink to bleed out (diuretics in your system can cause this, too, so it's best to avoid alcohol, caffeine, etc. before getting a tattoo). Being too light handed can give the tattoo a fuzzy appearance rather than a sharp, crisp line.

      Equally important is how a tattoo is cared for after getting it. The followup routine generally recommended by tattoo artists involves keeping the tattoo moisturized with some type of ointment the first few days afterward and cleaning the area with antibacterial soap (I'm sure for permanent eyeliner you would have to use specific ophthalmic products for this). The tattooed area will itch, and the skin will peel and possibly scab; tattoo artists always stress not to pick at it, no matter what because it can make a huge difference in how the tattoo looks after it heals. Once it heals (which usually takes a few weeks), it's also important to avoid sun exposure. Most people either keep it covered with clothing or with a high SPF sunscreen, but obviously that's not possible for a tattoo in the eye area, so you'd probably need to always wear a wide brim hat and polarized sunglasses when in the sun.

      ***Now with all of that being said, even though it's possible to have a black tattoo that doesn't fade, my personal opinion is that you shouldn't go the permanent eyeliner route. Despite permanent makeup being done in a medical setting (rather than by a tattoo artist in a shop), the number of possible complications makes me wary because a complication could affect your vision. As Mo said, that is not an area to take risks with!
      • S
        S
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        Re: SPM

        Sun, August 23, 2009 - 2:07 PM
        Since you are a model, I would definitely tell you to weigh the risks carefully. I can see where the permanent eyeliner would be a benefit for you, but if it did go wrong in any manner, it could ruin your career. If you feel that the benefits outweigh the risk, definitely have it done in a medical setting. How much have you researched the proceedure? Perhaps visiting with an aesthetic medical center to get a better picture would be a good idea? Good luck on your search. Oh, since your eyes are sensitive and it seems you have some allergies, you will want to make sure that you are not allergic to black ink. It could be disasterous to get that done and have an allergic reaction to the ink!
      • Re: SPM

        Mon, August 24, 2009 - 4:34 PM
        cosmetic tattoo ink is different than regular tattoo ink. it will fade much faster
  • Re: SPM

    Mon, August 24, 2009 - 5:11 AM
    I've tried having eyeliner tattoo'd under my eyes. I have *water-y* eyes...not sure if it's allergies, or just one of those things. Anyway, yes, It was painful...took the artist a long time to get the ink in 'cause my eyes watered a lot during the procedure. Then, my eyes watered so much the first few days, it washed most of the ink off. So I tried it again with the same results. Not going for a third time ;-)
    • Re: SPM

      Mon, August 24, 2009 - 7:46 AM
      I would really go consult with the best tattooist in your area about all these things, then see if they recommend a technician. I don't know about the UK, but over here there are some pretty lazy regulations about permanent make-up, and it gets fairly dicey.
  • Re: SPM

    Mon, August 24, 2009 - 9:25 AM
    There are some damn good tattoo artists in Brighton if that's what you really want to do. I would suggest checking on-line and then really looking at their work and talking to them over the phone. And if you see anyone with a great tat ask them where they got it from. Brighton is a fun place to go for an outing anyway! Although I loved walking all over Bath and sitting in the Sydney Gardens and drawing. Some times I wish I was back in England. Best of luck to ya! -Freya

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