Tribe.net. Local Connections Azeeza http://dancemakeup.tribe.net/thread/a3065525-2c9e-4492-aac4-97d08e362b98#77b30adf-78b5-4001-a5b5-8398e26804bf 2009-07-03T07:58:19Z 2009-07-03T07:58:19Z

Rebekah: Thank you SO much. I did read the description, but I was wondering how it worked. Test samples are only one dollar, so I suppose I could give it a go. Thanks again, Azeeza

Azeeza 2009-07-03T07:58:19Z Rebekah http://dancemakeup.tribe.net/thread/a3065525-2c9e-4492-aac4-97d08e362b98#33a497b5-33a4-42b3-9f03-fcad01bbf00e 2009-07-03T04:27:22Z 2009-07-03T04:27:22Z

Okay, so it does say that if your hair is very light that it will pick up a golden hue...but from what it sounds like, your hair would have to be really light to see a difference...well, other than the shine and strength, that is...and who doesn't want strong, shiny hair? :-D

Rebekah 2009-07-03T04:27:22Z Rebekah http://dancemakeup.tribe.net/thread/a3065525-2c9e-4492-aac4-97d08e362b98#4e50c25b-5ccf-420b-9e45-daa4ecf5e5f0 2009-07-03T04:24:07Z 2009-07-03T04:24:07Z

No, not that I know of...it's supposed to be completely colourless...and as far as I know, henna or cassia don't really wash out...henna will fade, but it actually binds with the keratin in the hair to help strengthen it...same with cassia...I'd say that as long as you test it on hair harvested from your hairbrush first, that you'd have nothing to lose by trying it... You must, must get yourself a henna tattoo...they are so lovely and it's relaxing and fun to have them done...everyone should treat themselves to a bit of henna, now and then...:-)

Rebekah 2009-07-03T04:24:07Z Azeeza http://dancemakeup.tribe.net/thread/a3065525-2c9e-4492-aac4-97d08e362b98#4d62c536-5ede-4406-8d35-d6082ae15251 2009-07-02T22:56:34Z 2009-07-02T22:56:34Z

I guess no golden tint then? And lasts through several washings? I've never had henna applied to my skin or hair. I know it is plant based. But beyond that, I have no clue. Thanks again, Azeeza

Azeeza 2009-07-02T22:56:34Z Rebekah http://dancemakeup.tribe.net/thread/a3065525-2c9e-4492-aac4-97d08e362b98#b7df62f6-b218-4684-aac4-a5a8e29fff5e 2009-07-02T17:58:06Z 2009-07-02T17:58:06Z

Cassia Obavata is a plant in the same class as henna...it gives the same benefits as henna, but with no colour...it'll just give you some extra shine and strength to your hair...this is the one that is generally called 'neutral henna', but it is not actually 'henna'... Oh...and yes, mehandi is reputable...shouldn't have any problems with it, but it's always a good idea to do an off-the-head test on the hair before using any new product... That help? :-)

Rebekah 2009-07-02T17:58:06Z Azeeza http://dancemakeup.tribe.net/thread/a3065525-2c9e-4492-aac4-97d08e362b98#b94babde-f290-4d64-abcd-0335f774d90b 2009-07-02T14:08:50Z 2009-07-02T14:08:50Z

Does anyone have any experience using this product? http://www.mehandi.com/shop/cassiaobovatabuy.html Any advice is greatly appreciated. Azeeza

Azeeza 2009-07-02T14:08:50Z Ann http://dancemakeup.tribe.net/thread/a3065525-2c9e-4492-aac4-97d08e362b98#10352ac9-7a06-41ab-9cfc-0526fa145305 2009-07-02T03:27:00Z 2009-07-02T03:27:00Z

Thanks Luna and again to Rebekah for all the advice. Just to be clear; my stylist did a strand PPD test, not on my whole head so my hair is fine. =O)

Ann 2009-07-02T03:27:00Z Rebekah http://dancemakeup.tribe.net/thread/a3065525-2c9e-4492-aac4-97d08e362b98#baf1d1be-a704-4d36-a182-005913fd2dea 2009-06-29T13:13:12Z 2009-06-29T13:13:12Z

Please forgive the scatter-brain mix-up over the diff in semi/demi...things do sink in to my brain when I'm not sleep deprived...but with what I've been getting, this one took a while to sink in...=p

Rebekah 2009-06-29T13:13:12Z Rebekah http://dancemakeup.tribe.net/thread/a3065525-2c9e-4492-aac4-97d08e362b98#7331c785-5301-4a6f-9143-5de2b65a8ead 2009-06-29T12:29:01Z 2009-06-29T12:29:01Z

Ooooh, I love the Clairol Beautiful's collection...in fact, those are the ones I started out with when I first went red...and Jazzing...*sigh*...I do miss some of that stuff... The ones I'm using are actually from overseas...made in Germany, but distributed in both Australia and New Zealand...fell in love with them while I was in Oz, so now, my fiance grabs a box for me when he sees them and sends them off to me...and in this case, if a demi is one that is mixed, I guess you'd call it a demi...but the only root issue I have is that my roots are not the same tone...I use a colour very similar to my natural level, so it's not quite as noticeable...no real line of demarcation...plus, I generally refresh it by the six week mark...I don't know how much grey I have and I don't wanna...cover that crap!!! *giggle* Oh...duh! They're Schwarzkopf Country Colours...I mix Indian Summer and Madagascar Cherry...gotta use two boxes, anyhow, so why not play with them a bit...looooves playing with colour!

Rebekah 2009-06-29T12:29:01Z Margaret http://dancemakeup.tribe.net/thread/a3065525-2c9e-4492-aac4-97d08e362b98#39243984-adbe-4f23-b66f-c3e66031ac1a 2009-06-29T08:23:20Z 2009-06-29T08:23:20Z

Sort of OT, but Rebekah, which semis are you having such good results with? I suspect a lot of the color labeled as "semi" is actually a demi. I've used Clairol Natural Instincts, Redken Shades EQ, L'Oreal Color Spa and Color Gems, and while most (maybe all) of those are called semi-permanent, they all grow out on me with distinct roots, in other words, they don't nearly wash out over the 4-week period between colorings. I tend to think of the true Semis as Jazzing, Clairol Beautiful Browns, etc., other stains that don't use a developer. Am I correct in that?

Margaret 2009-06-29T08:23:20Z Rebekah http://dancemakeup.tribe.net/thread/a3065525-2c9e-4492-aac4-97d08e362b98#4b6eb584-466e-4a21-8ce3-a8c6dd9ded62 2009-06-28T14:35:10Z 2009-06-28T14:35:10Z

Okay...re-read part of the stuff...think I'm getting what you're saying about the semi/demi...and remember a few that I would have qualified as demi...but I think I can safely say that the ones I use are true semi...great grey coverage and even the red stays pretty true between colourings... Okay...back to the original post-er...*giggle*...using a semi actually sounds like a good idea...still might want to do a strand test, off your head, just to make sure since your hair is in a bit of rough condition...any recommends for a line of colour, Luna?

Rebekah 2009-06-28T14:35:10Z Rebekah http://dancemakeup.tribe.net/thread/a3065525-2c9e-4492-aac4-97d08e362b98#f37bb957-6010-489f-b3f2-3fae45730139 2009-06-28T14:28:11Z 2009-06-28T14:28:11Z

That's why I told her to test...100% pure henna will not contain the PPD's that boxed kits of henna marketed as 'henna for hair' will contain...if it's pure henna, there are no PPD's to react against the ones in the previous colour...but I still would be interested in seeing how a strand test would turn out...believe me, I'd never tell someone to try doing that on the hair on their head...I wouldn't even do strand tests on someone's actual head of hair when I was in the salons... Thanks for the help...I'm also a licensed cosmetologist, but haven't actually worked in a salon for some time...so some of the newer lines, I'm not familiar with...but I do still have faith in Clairol...never done me wrong, yet...:-D Okay...and it appears something else has changed, too...please do tell about the semi/demi thing...cuz I've been using a semi for quite some time and believe me, if it didn't cover grey, it would have been tossed to the curb a long time ago... Seriously...my curiosity is killing me...I think that if I could just do colour, I'd go back to work in the salon...it's just the rest of it I got seriously burned out on...loooooooved playing with the colours!!! Oh...and if it were me and that colour had to be gone before something else could be done...I'd grow it out before I'd use a colour remover...can't imagine they're too much less harsh now than they used to be and yegads, those things are rough...*shudder*

Rebekah 2009-06-28T14:28:11Z luna http://dancemakeup.tribe.net/thread/a3065525-2c9e-4492-aac4-97d08e362b98#ab1e8caa-0caf-49c9-a839-566a5ece6731 2009-06-28T10:58:08Z 2009-06-28T10:58:08Z

ahhhh ok i am a lic. cosmetologist and certified master colorist including color correction. first off fiera IS A METALIC COLOR LINE IT IS NOT COMPATABLE WITH HENNA NOR PEROXIDE COLOR ~ some color lines use metalicsto create internal heat and process the color. second any time you are doing a complete color change or changing lines you are doing a color correction, which is a long and delecate process you are lucky, i am surprised you didn't fry your hair with the mixing you have been doing. >the metalic product should be removed but here's your options 1) you can stop coloring grow it out and remove the old color in stages with haircuts 2) you can purchuse a "decolorizor and residue remover" they are usualy in powder form. you want to start with the gentlest mixture first, mix the powder with distilled water. have someone help you apply this and watch it for you { you might want to go to a salon for this procedure. you can always ask for a consult find out what they use and i could tell you if that would be the best product for you. the best one on the market for professionals right now is SOLARIS, by PERMA, "MILK" will be too gentle you need the small envolpes from the SOLARIS line, not many salons carry Perma but any lic. stylist can purchuse it at a cosmo prof supply store. if you do go to a salon DO NOT let them talk you into removing your color with Bleach decolorizor or that it's the same procedure. It is not! and bleach and metalic do not mix well. depending on how dark the color was you were using, how long you've been using it and if you did your touchups properly by just appyling to the "root area"- new growth or pulling the color through to the ends everytime; it may take many applications to remove the color you should not do more then 5 applications at one time and let the hair rest for a week before you use aplly again. i had one client come to me that it took 2 months to remove the color she had been using. once the old color is removed you can use any product line you'd like. 3) you can use a semi-permant haircolor; know this many lines say they have a semi perm line but it's really a demi perm. a true semi perm requires no mixing with the color . with each shampoo some color will wash out and it gradualy grows lighter usualy only lasting 2-4 weeks this will only work if the semi color you choose is the same or darker then the color you're using now. if you have grey ~ semi does not cover grey hair. again once the old color has been removed by haircuts you can change to any color line. remember hair only grows on average 1/2 inch a month. whatever you chose remember to treat your hair to deep conditioning treatments especially after it was fried in with the test also in the future if you're going to do a color test, chemical test on your hair the best way is to cut a few strands, that way you don't have uneeded damage. good luck and if you have any other questions please leave me a message. luna

luna 2009-06-28T10:58:08Z Rebekah http://dancemakeup.tribe.net/thread/a3065525-2c9e-4492-aac4-97d08e362b98#699e8ac8-05a9-4268-94ba-6a687f7f9958 2009-06-26T23:01:24Z 2009-06-26T22:58:03Z

Hoooly Crap! Eeek...I've never had one do that to me...!!! Hmm...how about this...get a bit of henna and do a colour test with it, just the way it describes on the above site...be absolutely sure that it is body art quality henna...I repeat...ONLY COMPLETELY NATURAL HENNA...see what kind of results you get and if it turns red like it's supposed to and not green, I'd say to go with a henna colour, just for a treatment...you can use real henna with other colours, but it's always, always imperative to test it out if you're not sure...I only use semi-permanent colours now, but I've also done a henna 'treatment', I guess you could say, a couple of times...it thickens my hair up and makes it stronger and if I could find a variety that would make my hair a bit more vibrant, I'd go with that alone...but my hair is on the dark side, anyhow...since semi-permanent colours, nor henna will lighten the hair, I use the semi to give it a bit more ooomph, y'know? *giggle* Anyhow...do the test and see what happens...you might even get a colour you like well enough to make you give up regular colours forever...never know! Oh...you can get different sample packs on the different henna varieties on the site...it really depends on the country of origin to what the colour of the henna is...and each batch is gonna be a bit different, too...it is a natural product...but check them out and get one that sounds close to what you want... *Heck, don't be lazy, Bek*...here's the link for that page...that Punjabi Prime sounds lush... http://www.mehandi.com/shop/hairhenna.html

Rebekah 2009-06-26T22:58:03Z Ann http://dancemakeup.tribe.net/thread/a3065525-2c9e-4492-aac4-97d08e362b98#0b0dc88c-6ecb-4420-ae00-1550c8a8c43a 2009-06-26T21:57:09Z 2009-06-26T21:57:09Z

Thanks Rebekah! I went to the salon today for a trim and my stylist did a PPD test for me and it fried the hair. I guess that means I would be wise to stick with Feria for the foreseeable future? I touch up about every 4 weeks, my hair is fine textured, a bit on the limp side but in good condition. I don't want to chance ruining good hair just for vanity sake but also hate being limited in my color choices. Any thoughts on that? Many, many thanks!

Ann 2009-06-26T21:57:09Z Rebekah http://dancemakeup.tribe.net/thread/a3065525-2c9e-4492-aac4-97d08e362b98#c2c798a6-e583-4fbb-984a-7bc3063e2493 2009-06-26T15:21:17Z 2009-06-26T15:21:17Z

Ooooh...you said REDS!!! I AM the red queen!!! If you could let me know what you generally have available to you as far as the Clairol reds go...and what your present colour is...(maybe a good, well lighted pic)...I could likely let you know what you need. I doubt they are available outside of salons, but if you happen to run up on a brand called Logics by Clairol, that is THE best line I've ever used...I miss it!!!

Rebekah 2009-06-26T15:21:17Z Rebekah http://dancemakeup.tribe.net/thread/a3065525-2c9e-4492-aac4-97d08e362b98#d03c0a24-d4fb-4d6c-a9dd-b8500885a3db 2009-06-26T15:17:24Z 2009-06-26T15:17:24Z

If you're just worried about trying a different brand of colour, you shouldn't have any problem...I've bounced all over the place with different brands over the years with no ill effects...I don't use permanent colours on my hair anymore, but in my professional opinion, the best (and pretty much most widely used) colours are from Clairol...they've been around forever and their formulations tend to stay the most consistent.

Rebekah 2009-06-26T15:17:24Z Ann http://dancemakeup.tribe.net/thread/a3065525-2c9e-4492-aac4-97d08e362b98#10d169b1-1d07-456b-8a51-558cbf4f5ddf 2009-06-26T14:07:29Z 2009-06-26T14:07:29Z

Cool, thanks so much ladies! I was thinking of changing over to either Wella or Clairol pro colors, can't remember which had the most variety of reds from my last trip to Sally Beauty Supply. I would follow Rebekah's recommendation and test hair first just to be sure something weird or green won't happen on my head.

Ann 2009-06-26T14:07:29Z ~Sasha~ http://dancemakeup.tribe.net/thread/a3065525-2c9e-4492-aac4-97d08e362b98#8de9e303-1dcc-4a61-bdd9-d42137e4f708 2009-06-26T01:19:01Z 2009-06-26T01:19:01Z

I did look at the FAQs and it did say that Feria is not compatible with henna, but is compatible with other hair colors. As far as I know, it's a PPD color, like every other permanent color out there. To my knowledge, it's not a metallic dye.

~Sasha~ 2009-06-26T01:19:01Z Rebekah http://dancemakeup.tribe.net/thread/a3065525-2c9e-4492-aac4-97d08e362b98#31e917cb-8e51-4c46-b549-292d5f23dac1 2009-06-25T23:46:24Z 2009-06-25T23:46:24Z

Oh...there IS a test you can do for PPD's in your hair...I tried to look for it for you, but I'm having some problems with my computer and can't get the file to open.... If you go to the hennaforhair site and check out the E-book on how to henna your hair, it has a test you can do on hair harvested from your brush...from what I remember, you mix up some developer with something else in a bowl...(geez, the memory really starts to go when you get older)...then you put your hair in it and see how it reacts...I can link you to the page, but you'll have to check out the book... Just look for the test for PPD's...it's close to the explanation for how to henna your hair, from what I remember... http://www.hennaforhair.com/freebooks/

Rebekah 2009-06-25T23:46:24Z Rebekah http://dancemakeup.tribe.net/thread/a3065525-2c9e-4492-aac4-97d08e362b98#97fb1dce-fed0-4562-8788-cf5bf4cf3fe5 2009-06-25T21:39:36Z 2009-06-25T21:39:36Z

I'd love to be able to help, but I'm not familiar with that line of colour...I don't generally do L'Oreal products...never have liked them. What colour are you doing your hair? I might be able to recommend something else if you're not sure of the product you're using.

Rebekah 2009-06-25T21:39:36Z Etta http://dancemakeup.tribe.net/thread/a3065525-2c9e-4492-aac4-97d08e362b98#2517af7e-fb3b-4dae-b038-0f747ca8f407 2009-06-25T21:30:44Z 2009-06-25T21:30:44Z

Rebekah would be a great person to ask. If it involves, hair, coloring, henna, or anything like that, she knows it.

Etta 2009-06-25T21:30:44Z Ann http://dancemakeup.tribe.net/thread/a3065525-2c9e-4492-aac4-97d08e362b98#df6178d3-f7c0-4fe5-ad8a-87217f0612b7 2009-06-25T14:48:16Z 2009-06-25T14:48:16Z

I have been using Feria for years and as their color palette is shrinking, I'm looking at other brands. I color myself, am not a stylist and switched from the drug store kit to strictly the Feria Professional 25 volume developer and Classic Salon color 2 weeks ago. (Had been mixing the drug store colors and pro colors together with the pro developer for 3 months prior.) At some point Feria was or still may be metallic-based and that's the info I'm looking for. At the salon where I get my hair cut there are differing opinions about the content. The L'Oreal website FAQ says their products are compatible with others and I'm posting the link: http://www.lorealparisusa.com/_us/_en/default.aspx?ecid=rm+ysm+hair_hairco_gen+Feria$Hair$Color&repriseparam=#page=top{nav|media:_blank|overlay:faq|diagnostic|main:brandpage:feria|userdata//d+d//}&state=overlay:/container/tabswitchercontainer0+3 Here also is the pro hair color info: http://www.lorealtechnique.com/feria_01.shtml Can anyone help me out here? I'd hate having to grow out my color but also don't want green hair, even on St Patrick's Day. =O) Pooches garcias, Ann

Ann 2009-06-25T14:48:16Z