As long as we're talking about no 'poo experimentation...

topic posted Fri, January 16, 2009 - 12:48 PM by  Ali
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I thought I'd share my experience going no 'poo with facial skin care. For YEARS I dealt with acne that was moderate to severe. Since I quit using soap and started washing with an apple cider vinegar and water mixture and using pure coconut oil as a moisturized, my skin completely cleared up, and now even the scars are vanishing. It has truly been miraculous. I always thought since I was told I had oily skin that there was no way I could put anything remotely oily on it. Turns out coconut oil contains anti-bacterial properties. I was amazed at how fast it worked. Before I used to dread looking in the mirror first thing in the morning because I never wanted to see what might have popped up in the night. Now I look forward to seeing myself in the morning because each day, my skin just keeps getting happier and happier. I'm so grateful.
Plus, not shelling out a bunch of money on skin care products means that I have bigger belly dance jewelry budget. :D
Has anybody else made a similar transition? I'm very curious.
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  • Hmm...gonna have to see if I can get my daughter to try this...she has such a hard time with her skin...

    Was there any detox type period when you started where your skin got worse, cuz if there was, it's really hard to convince a 14 yr old that sometimes things have to get worse before they get better?
    • Rebekah - regarding the detox phase. I didn't get huge breakouts or anything, but after about a week it seemed like my pores were suddenly, um, unloading junk. I gave myself a firm face massage a few days in a row and it cleared up, and a lot of my enlarged pores seemed much smaller (and have ever since).
  • I did something similar for about two years. It wasn't really no 'poo just unconventional. I was one of those people in high school that never really had acne, then when I went to college I developed horrible acne and nothing helped it. So after spending lots of money on more and more expensive products, I gave up. I started to wash my face with a mixture of baby shampoo, extra virgin olive oil, and water with a few drops of lavender EO and tea tree oil. I toned with 50/50 ACV and water and moisterized with ROC alpha hydroxy night cream. I also used an asprin mask, and I still occasionally do. This process didn't get rid of all of my acne, I still had some pretty severe cystic acne, but it did make my skin feel really good and the parts that didn't have acne on them looked really healthy and glowy. In the end I switched to Proactive, and then to Proactive's extra strength formula. My acne is now all gone, but I miss the way my skin felt when I was using my own process.
    • In response to your question Rebekah, I saw results with the coconut oil immediately. However, another big component for me was eliminating foods that I have found to cause breakouts. In my case, the biggest culprits are deep fried oils (I used to be a potato chip & french fry monster), cow dairy products, refined sugar, and yeast. I also make it a point to eat some sort of leafy green with every meal. Even with eliminating problem foods my skin would still tend to break out around my moon time. Since the coconut oil, I have gone through four cycles with no breakouts at all.
      • The diet modification is the hardest thing with my daughter...I can get her to eat healthy things, but she likes some of the unhealthy ones, too...and alot of times, with teenagers, it's a matter of grab and eat, instead of something they actually have to put some effort into...I've helped that situation by not really buying anything that's horrible...but a lil treat every now and then, even I like...and my whole family has a weakness for Krispy Kreme glazed donuts...I have to close my eyes when I walk past them in the grocery...*giggle*

        I'll have to get some more coconut oil and see if I can't get her to try the vinegar, too...I hope it helps, cuz nothing else really has...
      • Ali, Do you use virgin coconut oil? or the refined liquid coconut oil? or the refined but not liquid oil? or I bet all of these would work huh?

        My face has horrible acne. I've tried EVERYTHING!

        well... not everything, but yah...

        I'm going to try the coconut oil and acv with periodic sugar scrubs...
        I use a sugar scrub on my body, why not on my face?
        • I'd be reluctant to try sugar on my face, since sugar in my belly usually equals a big zit on my nose...I'm starting to learn that the skin sort of "eats" whatever you put on it.
          I use the virgin coconut oil that is not liquid unless it is in a warm space (so it's sort of dense when kept under 70 degrees F). I use a very very tiny amount, about a quarter of a pea size.
          I highly recommend the book "eating for beauty" by David Wolfe.
          He says that acne can be caused by a deficiency in the mineral sulfur. Food that contain it are foods like cauliflower and radishes (foods that I hardly ever ate growing up, hmmmm....) I've been incorporating these into my diet more often. I've also been using MSM powder, which is a natural supplement of concentrated sulfur minerals. MSM is supposed to help your cells more fully absorb other nutrients as well. You just add it to water. It tastes a little salty sometimes, other times I can't even taste it. It's available on his website (I'm not advertising for him, it just works, I swear).
          Anyway, reading "eating for beauty" was what turned me on to the coconut oil.
          Also, instead of sugar scrub, you might try dry brushing your skin before you wash it. It stimulates the lymphatic system and helps the dead skin cells to be removed in a very gentle way.
          I will also use pure aloe vera gel (from the inner filet of the leaf) on occasion. It contains traces of salisylic (sp?) acid so it will bust zits without irritating your face. It also has a lot of vitamin C, which the skin loves. You can sleep in it over night, or put it on for 15 minutes, rinse and carry on with the dry brush/ACV/coconut oil. Hope this helps ladies.
  • I'm so trying this now.
    How much of the coconut oil do you use?

    I have one of those confused skin types where I have dry skin with oily patches that are no where near the t-zone. Most everything that I've tried just dries my skin out more.
    • Does the ACV rinse wash off make-up? I have to wear make-up everyday at work, and wouldn't DREAM of BD without twice as much. I use olive oil for my eyes, but, had never thought it would be good for my complexion to wipe off make-up, but, if you rinse with ACV afterwards?
      • Rya, I use just a bitty bitty bit of coconut oil, about a quarter of a pea size. A little goes a long way.
        Etta, when I wear make up, which is rarely, I use a little witch hazel to remove it, and then cleanse with ACV. However, after reading the link that Bo posted on a thread in regard to the oil cleansing method, I am going to start experimenting with that soon. I'll keep y'all posted. Good luck and thanks for sharing. :)
        • Thanks, -everyone- , for sharing all of this! :)
          • I had bad acne for a long time, and bought lots of products and so forth... then once I went away and didn't have any facial products for a week and a half, and noticed my skin was HEALING. Whoa! So now I don't use anything at all on my face, and in the shower very gently do circular massage with a soft wash cloth and that's it. Moisturizers of any kind make me break out. I now no longer have any acne EXCEPT when I go off the wagon and go on a sugar binge! Anything I put on my face is simply too harsh. If I wear makeup for dancing, I only use stuff on my eyes- no foundation or anything- and remove that with the gentlest eye makeup remover possible, and rinse my face with water only. It's worked wonders for me, and very very quickly too! Break the cleanser habit, it's bad for your face!
          • ok so other than the cucumber/oatmeal rub mask i just added.

            another good use for coconut oil. use SPARINGLY and dont douche your roots or you'll look oily but rub a small amount in you rhands then over your hair. it makes it shiny and smell super yummy.

            i personaly LOVE the smell of coconut or vanilla. anything that smells like those is super good to me. just make sure you dont use too much.


            something ielse natural but htis ones for hair. when i was younger, i was told by my garndmother to mix in a bowl milk with a small amount of mayo...then apply to my hair...
            ok it totally stinks, but it does make it feel really healthy after , just make sure to use somethign cleansing after caue the smell isnt good lol
  • It's been a month of doing this method and -WOW- what a difference for my face. I didn't take pictures or anything, but I remember what each week was generally.

    Week 1: Started at the end of my period (TMI much?). I had some pimples, perhaps cystic pimples, black heads and the whatnot. I started out with regular white vinegar and olive oil as that's all I had. I didn't notice much difference, maybe more in number of the small slightly pussy white surface pimples (not sure what else to call them).

    Week 2: I finally got all the supplies and also started "dry brushing" my face (basically taking a dry washcloth and rubbing my face). Very similar to week 1 with a number of the white pimple-y things. I was still getting regular pimples, but, curiously, they were going through their "cycle" much quicker. Also, they were *way* easier to pop (I know, gross, but I'm a popper). So, where it's normally take at least a week, most often 2, for a pimple to emerge and then be done with it, it was maybe a few days (this continued through week 3).

    Week 3: Not too many of the white pimples and hardly any regular pimples. Also, some old ones hiding out beneath the skin either came up or just disappeared. There has been a decrease in my blackhead patches (I have a few spots on the face where they seem to congregrate.)

    Week 4: Marked improvement in the appearance of my face! Hardly no new anything at all, except around my hairline. My skin feels great. There are still some discolorations/scars from old pimples, but it's improving. Even my gf, who berated me (nicely, of course) for not using her method, agreed that my face looks way better. No one has outright noticed on their own, but if I ask anyone who's really honest, they say there's a difference.

    Observations:
    (1) I am trying no poo on my hair and it's totally contributing to the small white pus pimples (gross, again, I know - sorry) around my hairline, but I'm gonna give it some time.
    (2) I'm a picker and I touch my face a lot, so I bet if I didn't do that, my face would have healed even quicker. I actually have to find something to do with myself now instead of standing in front of the mirror trying to find something to squeeze.
    (3) I am getting rid of all my other face/body lotions etc. and sticking to the coconut oil as moisturizer/lotion.
    (4) Also, FWIW, my dogs LOVE coconut oil.. They get super excited when they see me break out the ACV because they know the CO is next.

    I so TOTALLY wish I would have tried this sooner.

    Thank you so much for posting this here as I never would have found/tried it out!
    • Oh, just to add, I have a premixed bottle of ACV/H2O that is approximately 1:3 to 1:4 ACV to water. I just pour some into my hand and then splash my dry face with it.
      • weelllll I was using Dr Brommers soap on my face an a tone with 50/50 ACV/H20 (I hear soap on the face is bad bad bad) and didn't have much of an issue... al though I'm not a face up keeping kind of person anyway... my idea of skin care is like face wash... and moisturizer with a heavy dose of toner and always had no track record of keeping the break outs at bay not really anyway..

        but I digress, I took my roommie to the mall and had her go through some skin care make up stuff and thought I would try my noxima or whatever..

        can't get my damn face to stop breaking out now, I'm done washing with that and I'm totally switching over to BS/ACV or even the soap!!! :>0 angry face!!!

        usually I'm not that bad, but I got small little ones, white/black... and one of those big heavy duty ones that hurts and its never ending and winds up deep in the skin. I was so pissed off.

        ah well sigh of relief now I know I can relie on the basic easy stuff! =) So glad for the re-motivation to go back to the ACV deal. can't wait for this shiznit to clean up!
        • Basha, I bet it's the Bronners that makes your skin break out, I know it did mine when I used it on my face. Way too drying...
          I'm so happy to see that this method is working for others too.
          I've been adding a little bit of evening primrose oil to my coconut oil, and boy, it has really helped with old scaring, and makes my skin glowy. I highly recommend it.
          • Ali, its totally possible... I am simply not good enough at keeping track of when I use what to know what causes what. But up to date,

            I've been washing face and hair w/ a rotation of none silicone conditionar and BS/ACV . My hair and I sometimes have disagreements, the coconut oil tends to go ape and make it greasy looking but its much happier, so about once a week I'l slather it on (enough to coat, not enough to make sticky) and just go about my buisness doing horse things. My hair is underwraps about 90% fo the time I am out in public so its easy to just grease it up and let it absorb and do a good BS scrub w/ it tone it and lightly reapply oil.

            I do have a tendency to have an itchy scalp sometimes, still working on the cause of that. I use BS about once a week.... but I tend to use a mix of 1:3 on my face in the shower and rinse w/ ACV. So not sure what gives there... thoughts?

            I'll have to try just dry rubbing/ACV and coconut oil on my face... so many ways to skin said cat lol

            still playing but the breaking out seems to have been *hopefully* reduced. I get a couple that crop of hard core now and again but I would imagine thats more diet reflection than face washing.

            what do you all use for make up remover? I've pretty much relegated brommers for trips (one bar does it all kind of deal cause I'm lazy and hate packing) or for when I have heavy duty make up on.

            Does the coconut oil work as a remover? Figure if I am sticking w/ natural substances its not going to help to have a chemical one for make up removal!
  • I never thought to us acv on my face but I have been using it on my hair for years with great results, it takes all the buildup off your hair that shampoo, oil or other products leave behind afterwards it leaves my hair shiny, soft and with tuns of body since all the build up isn't weighing it down. I use acv about once a month with the ration of about 1 part acv to 5 parts water enough to pour over my hair I rinse with it while in the shower and yes my hair does smell a little for a day but its worth it.. since it is a strong cleanser I am not sure if you should use it if your hair is dyed. I can't wait to try it as a face cleanser I have the problem of small zits that come up around my jaw line and for some reason they itch like crazy for a day before they show up which of course cause me to touch my face a lot causing more of them vicious cycle.
  • You know, I read this thread and figured what the heck - I've tried everything else already. I did some online reading about ACV and coconut Oil for acne, then went to Whole foods & got both.
    It's been a week and my skin seems to be clearing up - and no new breakouts for the first time in a very long time. I hope this continues! Thanks for the info!
  • I'm on day three, and already i can feel a difference. I'm still broken out, but my skin feels softer, and there doesn't appear to be any new breakouts. I timed starting this process with my moon cycle, so I should be REALLY broken out right now, but I'm not. I'm going to do it for two months minimum, and plan on doing a weekly check. I really really hope this works.

    Thank you so much for posting this information. I feel like there really is hope for my skin now.
    • during the first few months I noticed that when my skin would break out, the break out were much milder, that clogged pores were much easier to clear, and that my skin was healing a lot faster. It's been about 6 months for me now, and I'm really pleased with how consistently helpful it has been for my skin. Dry brushing is really helpful too, helps encourage new skin to grow.

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