what to do with grey roots?

topic posted Mon, October 12, 2009 - 11:32 AM by  Lynne
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I know your all probably young women on this tribe..but, wondered if any of you with new idea`s & thoughts can help me?

I have grey roots..age has its hold upon me at last. I have bleached my hair for the last 15 yrs or more. The roots have to be done regular & I cannot afford to go to the hairdressers every 6 weeks, so do my own. Its now tired & uninspiring..my hair that is.
I would love it if my roots were white/grey but they are grey/grey..yuk!
I am a young person for my age but still love classic styles...see my photo`s...so what can I do to change this boring routine of sizzling my hair every 6 wks?
I want shiny hair...healthy hair..not fizzy untamable wires!

Shall I go red..ummmm!..shalll I go black..definately too harsh for my age!...shall I go brown...too mousey for my energy!

Any ideas, all you lavish, sexy, exotic ladies..please help! x
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Lynne
United Kingdom
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  • Re: what to do with grey roots?

    Mon, October 12, 2009 - 3:35 PM
    I am aging also, but still feel young and love to dance. I henna my hair every 4 - 6 weeks. It makes my hair soft and healthy. It looks a very natural reddish color. It is not a bright red, but rather a brownish-red. It looks like your hair is a brown color. Henna would look nice. There is no grey showing in my hair. I have put henna on my hair for about eight years now. I'd say give it a try. It will be a gradual change with the henna, rather than a radical change.
  • Re: what to do with grey roots?

    Mon, October 12, 2009 - 6:50 PM
    I've been dealing with this recently and I didn't want to look like I was camouflaging the grey, but I didn't want a regular, natural color either.

    Here's what I came up with- my hair is dark brown, and I started using a brown demi-permanent color with a red-violet base, plus an equal part purple intensifier (both Clairol Complements), and what's happening is the new growth is coming in sort of plum-brown on the dark hairs and violet-mauve on the grey hairs, so that the more grey that comes in, the more mauve my hair will look. Assuming the product stays on the market, eventually it will all be mauve/lavender. At some point, I'll probably put some highlights in to pick up the mauve a little more dramatically. At this point, I've only got about 1 1/2" of new growth that wasn't already colored the reddish brown I used to use, so it's a little hard to see what's happening, but I like what I see.

    Another thought is to let the underlayers grow out to natural, but section off the top area and get some streaks woven in- I recommend a salon for this, but the streaks won't show such a delineated root area as doing it a solid color. A hairdresser will be better able to help you do the transition with some style.
    • Re: what to do with grey roots?

      Tue, October 13, 2009 - 10:47 AM
      thanks for your advice..marg, have you got a photo of your hair now?
      • Re: what to do with grey roots?

        Tue, October 13, 2009 - 11:46 AM
        Nothing to show yet; I have to part my hair and flatten it out in strong light to see it at this point. It'll take about eight months/ 4" for it to make much of a difference since it's the same value as the old color I was using.

        Now it just has a pinkish tone at the roots that I'm afraid just looks like an odd dye job. It will have to grow out a lot more before it looks intentional. It's a little hard to see how it's going to read, since it's a subtler color than the Manic Panic type shades.
        • Re: what to do with grey roots?

          Wed, October 14, 2009 - 12:46 PM
          Hope it turns out as good as you hope Marg.

          I am though tending to veer towards going dead red..whatever the henna gives me..& work from that. I am a bit extravert myself..so hope I can carry a loud red off.
          At least I will be feeding my hair then with goodness..instead of killing it. I do want those longer tresses in old age..never had my hair even as long as this before..& kinda of enjoying the subtle feminity it gives me..but it does`nt grow any longer than the shoulders before it breaks off in a fizzy resigned sigh.

          So I`ll go for top grade henna I think, though my friend has offered to help, saying its a messy business & she had to wear it overnight to get a decent red going..though her hair was`nt peroxided. So I reckon mine will take at the touch!?
          • Re: what to do with grey roots?

            Thu, October 15, 2009 - 3:00 AM
            Unfortunately, there are a lot of changes we need to take into consideration as we age. Our color in general becomes drab and washed out, so the brighter hair colors look harsh and fake, while those qualities can look just fine on younger women. And hormones make our hair thinner and brittler, not to mention losing its gloss and softness. I recently had to cut my hair in a bob, and doubt I'll be able to have it past shoulder length again without clip-ons; it was breaking off enough past that so it just looked ragged and damaged.
  • Re: what to do with grey roots?

    Thu, October 15, 2009 - 11:27 AM
    I agree about dark or red being too harsh -- that is why I stopped being auburn at one point in my late 40s - I'm now a youthful 65, and my hair is naturally platinumish silver. But, when I was in my late forties, I kicked the red by going ash blond, which is softer and looks good on us older women. I was a haircutter for a long time, so I had some knowledge of color.You're so right - don't do anything that will fry your hair -- healthy always looks better! Looks like your hair is dark (?) -- so what you could do is have some thin streaks of chesnut or dark blonde put in, which would blend the grey roots well. I'm a light ash blonde now, but deceided to let my 'silver' hair grow out again --- fortunately not too much diff in tone, unlike your dilhema. Good luck. And wear that salt and pepper proudly someday -- its wonderful that all of us are out there dancing - yay!
    • Re: what to do with grey roots?

      Fri, October 23, 2009 - 12:06 PM
      Another option, if you don't choose henna.
      Pick a color that is not lighter than your own natural base color (red/auburn/brown doesn't matter). One time to an all over color in that permanent color. There-after, when doing your roots, buy matching shades- one box in a permanent and one box in a semi-permanent (these don't contain peroxide, which causes your hair to be brittle).
      Do the roots in the permanent but don't do the "pulling it through to your ends" step, just rinse out really well and condition.
      With your hair still damp do the semi-permanent on your whole head. Be careful as your hair may be really porous at first.
      This way you can color with less damage.
      Also, deep condition at least once a week.
      This is what works for me. I had been coloring my hair for over 14 years and it was just getting too fried. I started using "curly girl" methods for styling and cut, and took the above advice from my stylist. :D
      • Re: what to do with grey roots?

        Wed, October 28, 2009 - 8:40 PM
        I recommend talking with a professional before putting any other chemical processes or henna on hair that has been bleached.
        • Re: what to do with grey roots?

          Sat, October 31, 2009 - 8:54 AM
          At 54, I have stopped coloring my hair and I cut it short. I am going to grow out the color and see what color gray I actually am and then reevaluate what I want in color and do something much more subtle. My hair has been thinning due to the chemicals, some meds and age...so now, I just want healthy hair, regardless of what color it is. But I may do some sort of non peroxide rinse at some point. Right now, it's just growing out and looking ick.
          • Re: what to do with grey roots?

            Sun, November 1, 2009 - 5:15 PM
            I've never been a constant colourist, and it's not likely I'll start now... but that regrowth line is something to be seriously considered now in a way it didn't used to be.

            My original natural colour is dark brown, and I've always liked to throw some red in there whenever the mood strikes, and then just let it grow out naturally until next time. When I started getting greys, it was amazingly cool to have easy vibrant red streaks... I loved that effect! Now there's more grey, I still love the streaks, but the regrowth line if I don't recolour is more bothersome. I left it for a while at one stage, just to observe how how the colours grew out (ymmv, but for me, following my curiosity easily wins out over any social disapprobation). I discovered I really like the way the softer grey frames my face and the stronger colours make their presence known at the ends (my hair is heavily layered, with the longest length about to the bottom of my shoulder-blades) ...and I thought it would be nicer to work *with* the phenomenon than to be fighting a constant battle against it.

            So what I've been doing for several months now is designed to continue that look, but with softer transitions between colours. I'm using henna/cassia/indigo as a gloss for gradual colour build-up instead of all-at-once, and I alternate colourings. So sometimes I'll use cassia concentrated on the roots (which I find is not exactly *clear* over the grey - gives a slight golden tinge, but the colour isn't strong enough for regrowth to worry me); sometimes henna on the mid-end sections (I make a high ponytail and colour from the band outwards); and sometimes henna with 20% indigo on the ends (ponytail again, but only applying to the last couple of inches). The ponytail method suits me very well - it's how I cut the layers into my hair, so the colouring "layers" blend in with the hair-length layers well. And the definition is imprecise, so over time the colours grade into each ther more subtly. This means I'm actually colouring far more frequently than I ever have before, but so far it's fun enough and simple enough that I'm ok with that. And when I get bored (which I'm liable to do), it'll grow out gracefully (*s*). And if I don't a have a different crazy idea to run with, I can restart it any time...

            The gloss! Oh, yes... the gloss - I should explain that. Instead of mixing a large bowl of henna/etc to a mud consistency and painstakingly applying from the scalp outwards being careful not to leave any gaps, wrapping and leaving to develop for hours and then painstakingly washing out the dried mud (which is a lovely ritual that I plan to still treat myself to on occasion), I mix a few tablespoons into a conditioner base (store-boughten if I'm lazy, home-made when I feel like it (egg/olive-oil/cider-vinegar)). It's runnier than a traditional henna mix. The vinegar will activate the henna if I'm making up the base myself, or otherwise I'll stand the mix in hot water to warm it beforehand. (Cassia and indigo don't need pre-activation.) I mix about half a cup to a cupful, and start the cassia at the roots, or the henna/henna-indigo at the ends and work it in as far as the amount I've mixed will go. I leave it in 10 to 30 minutes (or as along as it takes me to deal with heel callouses or ragged fingernails or some other boring task I set myself to accomplish while I'm already in the bathroom). The cassia doesn't leave a mess on my skin, so I don't need to be super careful around the hairline; the henna/henna-indigo doesn't go on my scalp, so ditto. I do wear disposable latex gloves, but that's probably from old habit rather than necessity - it doesn't take long to apply, so the henna isn't likely to stain (maybe need 'em for the indigo phase). It's nowhere near as large a time and effort investment as a traditional henna treatment; also less messy than a permanent/semi home colour - similar amount of effort to a colour "rinse", but it doesn't wash out in six washes...

            All of which doesn't amount to a recommendation that anyone else use my idiosyncratic method... Rather, I remembered as I read Bibia's "growing out and looking ick" that I had a moment (or several, *eek*) during my "observation" phase when I looked in the mirror and thought "ick" and nearly ran straight off to recolour the whole lot. But thanks to a strong lazy streak, I held out long enough to narrow down that "ick" response to the small part I *really* didn't like, and to notice what parts I did like very much. And now I'm *really* happy with the outcome! I'm so glad I didn't rush to do something without taking that time...
  • Re: what to do with grey roots?

    Sat, November 7, 2009 - 9:49 PM
    Find out if there is a cosmetology school near you. They offer services way below salon pricing and are totally supervised.
    • Re: what to do with grey roots?

      Tue, November 10, 2009 - 11:36 AM
      Please do not henna directly over pre bleached hair without a pro consult. Bleach takes out all the natural balancing tones that allows henna to look so fabulous., applying it directly onto bleached hair will likely result in orange Bozo hair, not exactly flattering. Actually ANY haircolor going on over bleach will need special retoning to help rebalance the off tones that ALL hair colors have as their base( blue, violet,even green can result). Please at least consult with a pro and get a game plan before going off the bleach. It's kinda tricky....

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