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    <title>Hair up-dos - Makeup and Hair for Dancers - tribe.net</title>
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      <title>Re: Hair up-dos</title>
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      <description>i guess my issue is that i naturally have a lot of height, and i'm just not sure how to make it something more interesting than just a poof&#xD;
like i have the way of doing it by pulling it back an dputting it into two sections, so that i have space to fit a headband, but i'm not sure what to do with it besides that&#xD;
my hair really lends itself to sticking stuf fin it, like alot of my hair flowers are just the flowers on stems with floral tape so i don't cut my scalp =p &#xD;
i'd like to get some cool scarves and make some hair falls so that i could change my hair up. it would probalby make a good base for a huuge hairdo or headpiece, i'm just kind of at a loss as to where to go.</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 17:59:24 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Elle</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2008-02-11T17:59:24Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Hair up-dos</title>
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      <description>wheres the girly classes for us tomboys all grown up. I have lower back length hair now as apposed to 4 years ago I had a shaved head. I have no clue on what to do with it.</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 07:14:47 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>tabitha</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2008-02-11T07:14:47Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Hair up-dos</title>
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      <description>My friend got one of these at Claire's Boutique for a ballroom competition.&#xD;
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it is AMAZING!</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 17:43:44 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Yasmin</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2008-01-04T17:43:44Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Hair up-dos</title>
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      <description>Cute! I love it. :0)</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 15:31:00 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Shamsa</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2008-01-04T15:31:00Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Hair up-dos</title>
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      <description>so i did this with my hair the other day for fun and here are the very big hair results... &#xD;
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/morae/2158649972/</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 08:27:18 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Morae</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2008-01-04T08:27:18Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Hair up-dos</title>
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      <description>LOL!  ...Step one: fine old CLEAN sock... &#xD;
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z</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2007 15:33:55 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Zina</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-12-29T15:33:55Z</dc:date>
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      <description>haha never mind i just needed to read one more post and there you go, giggles. my family is in the glower business and when you said that i had all these images of easels and wreaths flash threw my head. weddings and funerals and hair, oh my.</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:07:25 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Morae</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-12-14T14:07:25Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Hair up-dos</title>
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      <description>hmm, reminds me of flower arrangements.</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:05:16 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Morae</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-12-14T14:05:16Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Hair up-dos</title>
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      <description>"You can use sticks with decorated, dangly ends "&#xD;
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i love this idea, but my problem is i always end up with the dangly ends getting caught in the hair that sweeps back from my face to the bun. how do you prevent this? it pulls uncomfortably, plus it hides the pretty danglyness of the whole thing. thus ruining the whole effect.</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:03:30 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Morae</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-12-14T14:03:30Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Hair up-dos</title>
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      <description>I think she gets it at a floral or hobby shop.  I think they are usually used for flower arrangements.  I remember seeing cone shaped styrofoam for holiday decorations.  You can also use them for food towers, such as strawberries and melons attached with a toothpick.  So many uses, too bad styro is so nasty for the Environment!</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 07:48:17 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Simone</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-12-14T07:48:17Z</dc:date>
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      <description>Whoa, what an odd, but great idea! Styrofoam...I'd have never even considered it. Where do you buy donut-shaped styrofoam, though?</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2007 23:11:27 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Tisha Leigh</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-12-08T23:11:27Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Hair up-dos</title>
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      <description>Oh my gosh! How funny! I can honestly say that I have never met anyone else with my name, let alone another belly dancer! hehe</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2007 23:05:53 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Tisha Leigh</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-12-08T23:05:53Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Hair up-dos</title>
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      <description>I love the sock trick, and am inspired to try it at my performance tomorrow night. Just wondering if anyone as any experience wearing hair falls with this method. I think I'd be worried they'd fall out.  Maybe I'll do it tonight and practice for a bit just to see...</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2007 04:16:06 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Shanna</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-12-08T04:16:06Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Hair up-dos</title>
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      <description>I have long waist length very straight hair.  I too wanted some height on top yet be able to wear my hair down.  I recently bought a clip on hair piece.  I plan to bring two sections of the sides of my hair up to the crown and then clip it with the hair piece.  This gives the height and a layered look in the back.  They come on those big banana clips.  I got mine at one of those kiosks in the mall that sells hair clips, etc.  &#xD;
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I do use the hair sticks when I put mine in a bun.  I too have Asian hair.  Mom's Korean. It is the best thing for me.  Another that helps is I put it up in a bun while it is still damp.  Makes it easier to have everything hold together.</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 21:17:19 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Sanura</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-12-06T21:17:19Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Hair up-dos</title>
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      <description>Wow! I have never heard of the sock method, GENIUS!  I've been dancing with IONA contemporary dance theatre (iona360.org) for a couple of years.  They use extremely elaborate costumes and I have discovered the secret to the stable up-do, STYROFOAM!  The creator, Cheryl, shapes donut or volcano styrofoam, ties 4-6 cords around to stabilize with bobbie pins, pulls hair through center, then braids or twists hair and then bobbie pins to the styro.  This creates a fantastic base to stick all sorts of things into.  I was a pineapple on Sat. with green feathers and we have done a beehive with wired bees all around.  Who would have thought!  Not so environmentally friendly, but reusable.</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 18:49:40 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Simone</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-12-06T18:49:40Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Hair up-dos</title>
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      <description>One, thanks for posting this, as I had a very similar question.&#xD;
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Two:  I about squee'd when I saw your name - my name is Tisha too!  It's very rare to see someone with our name, I'm always happy when I do! :)</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 19:38:54 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Tish</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-12-05T19:38:54Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Hair up-dos</title>
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      <description>Awesome video.  I have very long thick hair but have trouble getting it into a tight bun.  The sock worked!</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 19:45:39 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Azual</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-12-02T19:45:39Z</dc:date>
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      <description>Here is a video on this same subject.  very cool.&#xD;
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EP_dJPUhL2A</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 16:08:54 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:date>2007-12-02T16:08:54Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Hair up-dos</title>
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      <description>My very favorite find: the mini Scunci hair claws!  I like the ones with the clear gripper surface inside.  I have at least fifteen in my hair when I updo!  They also hold in my flowers as well.  Luv'em!</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 16:04:13 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Ela</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-12-02T16:04:13Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Hair up-dos</title>
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      <description>Have you ever tried hairsticks?  It's a traditonal asian way of putting long hair up I have thick, mid-bum length asian-esque hair and it's the only thing that works.  When you see an asian bun with stick like chopsticks through it, the sticks should be holding the hair up (rather than doing a bun and pushing the sticks through it, as I've seen it done waaay too many times).  It's extremely stable if you do it properly, much better than having lots of little pins stuck in and worrying they're gonna hold, and once you've mastered it, it only takes and 30 seconds each time.  You can use sticks with decorated, dangly ends which looks fabulous or you can use shorter sticks that may be invisible.  You can do two buns too, or just the top of your hair - it's all good.&#xD;
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It's hard to explain how to do them without some sort of visual aid.  One way to do them is to pull back your hair as if you were doing a ponytail (you don't need an elastic).  Coil it up and curl it round as if you were coiling it unto a bun.  Once it's all coiled you can tuck the ends under the coil.  Take a hairstick (I personally just buy children's chopsticks witout the 'grips' at the end, they're the perfect length) and poke it just in the edge of the bun, towards your scalp, thread it completely under the bun and then thread it through the last 1/2 inch of the bun on the other side.  the trick is to get the tension *just* right so the bun stays in place and isn't so tight it hurts but isn't so loose it comes out.  &#xD;
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If your hair is very long you find that the bun coil sticks out very far from your head, a bit like a beehive.  If your hair is long enough where there's one coil sitting on top of another coil you can also do a 'figure 8' bun with sticks.  All you do is take the top coil and fold/pull it out.  You end up with two coils side by side (you can have them side by side vertically or horizontally - I prefer it horizontally because my hair is very heavy and I find I have less strain on my neck.  Having them vertical looks very much like a chignon).  Take the stick, poke it through the centre of one of the coils, thread it under and take it back out the centre of the other coil.  You'll need to secure it with two sticks to ensure that it stays flat against your head.  &#xD;
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Here's one link:&#xD;
http://www.dressytresses.com/hair/gallery/instruct/hair-bun/</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2007 17:29:22 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Kimberley</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-12-01T17:29:22Z</dc:date>
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      <description>It's actually called a "rat".  :)  As if hair in a bag wasn't disturbing enough. &#xD;
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If having actual hair around grosses you out, you can also by commercial rats that are made for the same purpose, or make one by using hair for hair weaves from a beauty supply store.</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2007 07:10:49 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Lakshmi</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-12-01T07:10:49Z</dc:date>
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      <description>I've considered doing fancy beadwork and then covering it with a layer of tulle; shouldn't be noticeable, and that way the costume would look fancy enough without catching on my hair.  Have way too many costumes to make already, though. :P&#xD;
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Smooth chainette fringe (rather than beaded) would probably work, too.</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 22:26:58 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Maral</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-11-04T22:26:58Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Hair up-dos</title>
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      <description>Id probably use black socks for dark hair, and a lighter brown for blond.     Good idea.</description>
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      <dc:creator>Baysan</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-11-04T17:27:35Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Hair up-dos</title>
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      <description>Using your own shed hair and wrapping it in a "ball" is called a "ratt".  It is the foundation of all the very high hair of the late Victorian and the Edwardian ages.  Women in the 40's used ratts to make the Pompadore(sp?) in the front of their hair.    My mother had some in the 50's that were mesh covered spiral steel- like a big mesh covered spring.   Those were used for a base for French twists.  I like the rolled sock idea but how do you keep it in place?  Isnt it difficult to push pins thru and doesnt it show?&#xD;
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I have hair long enough to sit on and I use the ballerinas hair pins too. they are the only ones strong enough to hold it all up.  I use the three inch curved.  For those of you that havent found these yet, they are wickedly strong stiff steel curved hairpins that are used by dancers who need their hair to stay put.  I can get away with using 4 pins and can sleep on them and still have my hair up and in place in the morning (sleeping with very long hair can be messy and painfull) You insert the first pin and then use it as an anchor for the rest of the pins- they should be pushed in UNDER the first one (the anchor?) and woven all together.&#xD;
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I saw one dancer with knee length hair.   She danced with the hair as if it were her partner.   Her costume was undecorated in back so there was nothi ng for the hair to catch on.  I have to say it looked a bit odd, and sort of unfinished.   It was a case of too much is just too much.   Sort of pretty but I wouldnt go there?</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 17:24:04 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Baysan</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-11-04T17:24:04Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Hair up-dos</title>
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      <description>I make two really messy 'dewdrop' buns on the top of my head (not at the back, but on top--think cheerleader).  The messier the better b/c it gives more volume.  i do two rather than one because that gives more volume and more area to attach stuff to.  Then I add some fake dreads to the ordeal--same color as my hair--with lots of hairpins to add even MORE volume.  only then do i start to attach the jewels and flowers and whatnot.</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 14:51:33 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Alyssum</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-11-03T14:51:33Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Hair up-dos</title>
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      <description>I actually can't do a partial updo, as my hair is so long that it tangles with my costume.  I'm hoping *someday* to be able to dance with my hair down, but I'd have to design a costume from scratch that had no catchy bits.&#xD;
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I put my hair in one or two buns and usually wrap a fluffy flowered trim around it, then stick flowers, hairsticks and yarn falls in.  Or I put it in two (or more) braids and decorate the braids with tassels or ribbons.</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 04:25:20 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Maral</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-11-03T04:25:20Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Hair up-dos</title>
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      <description>Hi,&#xD;
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I hear you! I find doing up-dos to be very challenging, or at least ones that I think look really good. My fave way to do an up-do is to put only the top half of my hair up, and leave the rest all the way down. I like to comb my bangs over to one side. I have found that ratcombing the top and the sides a little helps to add height on top, but the trick is to smooth it out without losing that lift. If you don't smooth it out, it just looks too sloppy to me. My thing is learning how to create a bun that looks good. My fave bun look is to have a little braid wrapped around it. It's very Victorian looking, which I think is really beautiful. But it's hard to do by yourself.</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 02:09:27 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Tisha Leigh</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-11-03T02:09:27Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Hair up-dos</title>
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      <description>Thanks for the tutorial on the donut bun thing.  That is awesome.&#xD;
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Something I like is the Hairdini clip.  You can do really cool fast updos.  The big thing I like about it is that I can quickly change from tribal to cabaret for performances with it and very little effort.  http://www.hairdini.com/ClipDini.html  &#xD;
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My hair is bottom of bra length and REALLY thick.  I use the mega clipdini and have some room to go.  I am sure for longer hair you can do more braids or flip it back through. I would just play with it.</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 21:20:43 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Galena</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-11-02T21:20:43Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Hair up-dos</title>
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      <description>There's also an old victorian technique that friends in college used.  I forget the term for it, so I just call it a hair ball.  Every time you brush or comb your hair, take the hair that's caught on the brush and put it in a bag.  Just keep adding until you end up with a hair ball (Pull it out every now and then and rolls it around so it all mats up).  When doing an updo, pin that to your head and then wrap your hair over it to get added thickness.  It looks kinda grosh just sitting there in a bag, but it's obviously an absolute perfect match for your real hair so you don't have to be so careful about making sure you cover every last bit of it, is all natural, free, and recycling to boot.</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 18:45:57 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Amy</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-11-02T18:45:57Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Hair up-dos</title>
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      <description>Hey- I did a google search and found a sock bun tutorial with photos: &#xD;
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http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v222/puppysmuggler/sock%20bun/</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 18:40:18 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Petra</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-11-02T18:40:18Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Hair up-dos</title>
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      <description>Hair pins are fabulous!  I have short hair, but many wigs and bobby pins just won't cut it for those.  I get them at Meijer (kinda like Wal-Mart but slightly better) and at beauty supply stores.</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 18:22:36 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Jennifer</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-11-02T18:22:36Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Hair up-dos</title>
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      <description>Oh hell yeah! Hair pins are the best. I couldn't live without them. I have to get them at this ballet shop here in town. I haven't been able to find them anywhere else. My hair tends to bend them after a few uses though.  &#xD;
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So, do you do the partial up-do with your long locks? What do you do with the top part? A regular bun?&#xD;
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Thanks!! =o)</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 17:10:23 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Shamsa</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-11-02T17:10:23Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Hair up-dos</title>
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      <description>I have extremely long hair and my #1 recommendation is to get some hairpins, if you don't have already.  Most people don't even know about them anymore, but they work a million times better than bobbypins for putting up long hair. :)  I can put up my calf-length hair securely with only a few heavy-duty hairpins.</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 16:41:26 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Maral</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-11-02T16:41:26Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Hair up-dos</title>
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      <description>I've been wondering about how to do this too. My hair is long and think and heavy! It's a pain to get it in any sort of up-do without serious constuction. Is there anyone out there who does the partial up-do regularly who wouldn't mind posting a step by step? Thanks!</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 15:17:40 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Shamsa</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-11-02T15:17:40Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Hair up-dos</title>
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      <description>Im having a blond moment lol Im a little confused. Is it the ankle/leg part of the sock thats being used? And is the sock used like a scrunchi or hair tie? Going around the pony tail.</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 13:59:58 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Tragedi</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-11-02T13:59:58Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Hair up-dos</title>
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      <description>My suggestion exactly the 'sock bun'... after four years of military school and watching girls struggle with their hair ( I was short haired at the time) I have had to learn the ways of the 'sock bun'.  &#xD;
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Step one : find old CLEAN sock  (I recommend a medium sized sock... if it's too big you get a gynormous bun on the back your head that looks very odd... too small... well then you will have more hair then the sock can handle)&#xD;
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Step two: cut toe end off the sock... about up to the heel, depending on how long the sock is and how big you want the bun.  The objective is to be able to roll it onto itself.&#xD;
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Step three:  Useful with a friend but can be done solo... take the sock and put it on your forearm or a tall chair back, roll the sock snuggly on to it self... creating the doughnut shape.&#xD;
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Step four: pony tail --&gt; sock over pony tail---&gt; hair splayed over sock---&gt; hair tie over hair and sock... arrange as desired.  (the hair tie bit over sock and hair is useful with a friend if they can put it over it as one rather than as one side than the other)&#xD;
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Step Five: add as much s$$t as you like  =D  &#xD;
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Hope that helps!</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 13:27:01 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Basha</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-11-02T13:27:01Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Hair up-dos</title>
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      <description>If I am thinking correctly of what you are describing its much like a sock bun? (donut thing you pull hair through, smooth down over the donut and pull hair around or tuck it etc?) I have hip length hair and will regularly put my hair up into one of these... what i do with my extra hair is I will braid it (or twist but I preffer the braid) and then wrap it around like a normal bun. This style has really helped me when I dance because I can create a smooth look, or I can put a bunch of stuff ontop of the bun and have myself a hair garden :)&#xD;
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Hope that all makes sense!</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 12:31:24 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Lisha</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-11-02T12:31:24Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Hair up-dos</title>
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      <description>Hi! Thanks for the reply! I actually have one of those bun doughnut thingies, but because my hair is so long, it's really hard to tuck all of it under the doughnut. I guess I'll just have to keep playing around with it.</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 08:07:59 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Tisha Leigh</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-11-02T08:07:59Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Hair up-dos</title>
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      <description>lots and lots of teasing and hair spray!!!!!!!&#xD;
and also it helps if you can pin the hair piece in, otherwise it is likely to slip, especially if you have silky hair&#xD;
get your hair "dirty"with product in it first before you do anything&#xD;
this will help your up-do stay in .&#xD;
also if you have a Sally;s near by, they have all kinds of add-inhair pieces.&#xD;
good luck!&#xD;
Viorica</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 04:50:11 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anna</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-11-02T04:50:11Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Hair up-dos</title>
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      <description>Hi Tisha,&#xD;
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When I do a bun up-do, I use a mesh bun mold that I bought at a drug store years ago,  actually, I've been looking to buy more, but they seem harder to find than they used to be.  &#xD;
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Anyway, these molds look sort of like mesh doughnuts.  You put your hair in a pony tail, the pony tail goes through the center of the mesh "doughnut" and then you fold sections of the hair back and tuck and pin.  Sometimes, as a variation, I leave some of my hair untucked.  I think I did for my performance at Tribal Quest, there are some pictures in my profile, but I don't know how well you can see the bun.  But using these molds makes the buns look really thick and they're really sturdy and they easily support flowers and other hair accesorries.&#xD;
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I've also seen some other bun-makers at Claire's Boutique, you're supposed to wrap your hair around a twisty-thing or something, but I've never used them.  &#xD;
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Good luck.</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 04:45:15 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Emilie</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-11-02T04:45:15Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Hair up-dos</title>
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      <description>Hello all,&#xD;
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I love the look of the various up-dos that so many dancers create with their hair, but whenever I try to do them with mine, I can't seem to figure out how on earth they do it! I was curious if many dancers use any kind of hair pieces to to create that "lift," or the height, on the top of the head? It looks as if they take part of the hair and put it up into a bun on the top of their head, but I can't seem to make it look the same. Can anyone explain to me how to create a really great bun-like up-do? &#xD;
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Thanks! &#xD;
Tisha</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 04:01:36 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Tisha Leigh</dc:creator>
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